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The bias of the creators was clear, all the truly good scenes were with loli Kissshot.

That aside, surprisingly much skipped from the book for a three-part film adaptation of it. But that's not more than nitpicking, I have actual problems with the film. Mainly that they are changing the focus of the work, shifting it away from its anti-suicidal message. Now Arararagi's main motivation is that white-knight complex, making him a ritual sacrifice by his own conscience. In contrast, the book just outright said that he wants to kill himself. That was the whole point of him hiding his porn. It was a suicide, so he didn't want people to see the porn. Now it's no longer a suicide, so movie Ragi doesn't care if people will see the porn or not.

tl;dr: they are pulling a GitS'95 on us, and until the next two parts I don't know if it will work or not.

>>16043
Why did he believe her to begin with? Where were the train station guards? Am I 7 years too late to complain about such things? How was he able to buy the porn or was it a gravure magazine?

Well you can say that the parallel they made with the sun and the Japanese flag could mean that the Japanese society itself is killing him, which is pretty much something that would happen to a suicider. But they probably just liked the imagery.

They didn't really show us any reason for him to want to die. He was a little emo, but that was something even future Araragi have at times. In fact it was portrait as one of the happiest days in his life and he was terrified through the whole episode of dying. We have no information that makes sense for him to want to die and hiding the magazine can be something he does in both situation. It makes sense for him to not want to be found near it in both situations. But in the novel was it a described action when it was suppose to be happening or only mentioned later?

>>16047
I forgot to complain about the CGI. I have no idea why they even used it.

>>16047
>Why did he believe her to begin with?
In the book, because he wanted to die anyway.
In the film, because his white knight complex is THAT strong.

>Where were the train station guards?
In the book, because there was no train station involved.
In the film, because SYMBOLISM.

>Am I 7 years too late to complain about such things?
No.

>How was he able to buy the porn or was it a gravure magazine?
It's not porn by current standards of the Jap's gov'n. It's porn by everybody else's standards.

>But they probably just liked the imagery.
I bet not. But I bet they put it in as some sort of a wordplay.

>They didn't really show us any reason for him to want to die.
The book was quite skim on details on this too, but it read self-consistent and well, so it was okay. Besides. When has ever Koyomi given any details about himself? Fucker unreliable narrator hides stuff about himself.

>In fact it was portrait as one of the happiest days in his life and he was terrified through the whole episode of dying.
Yeah… that wasn't really so in the book. Tsubasa started to have a healing effect on him only afterwards, when she supported him throughout what would be Hot-blooded part?

>But in the novel was it a described action when it was suppose to be happening or only mentioned later?
Described action, and I think he even revisited the moment later in his memories. Damn, the book is with my brother at the moment, and I'm too lazy to go through the pdf, sorry.

>I forgot to complain about the CGI. I have no idea why they even used it.
I've the feeling Shaft always wanted to do something like that, but not without movie budget to pull it off.

I read through this thread before watching, so Araragi's lack of motivation for helping Kissshot really stood out to me. I wonder if I would have noticed if I went into this unspoiled.
Other than that and the CG I did quite enjoy it though. I feel like it's been quite a while since I've seen something as violent as the subway scene in an anime.

>>16157
I can't wait to see how violent the last confrontation will become. Considering how much they upped the relatively simple first encounter, THAT should be a fucking masterpiece.

>>16157
I quickly skimmed the thread before watching it just now and I actually felt like they were trying to show him about to kill himself in the opening scene. It matches the imagery of 8 trillion crows at least. R

eally good cinematography and heatpats and they really fucked up by waiting so long to make this because Hanekawa being his first friend really adds a lot to her being rejected. Overall really good movie I hope they can keep it up for the rest.

>>16169
>8
The opening scene was all about "outside awaits death", but my mind connected it more to "vampires are hikkies" than to suicide.

>>16186
The vampire and hikki resemblance HAS to be something the author wrote intentionally. I totally read into it the same way but at the same time he was walking up to the roof why go to the top of the abandoned building if he wasn't thinking about jumping? (was it the cram school? it looked like it)

>>16217
Of course it was the cram school. Did you miss when they made a quick repeat of the scene later and Kiss-Shoot saved his ass?

>>16219
It's design was bigger than I remembered it.

>>16217
In the book he doesn't go to the roof iirc, but, well, Araragi is known to like high places. And it kind of makes sense to climb to the roof of an unknown building, so that you can see where you are, so I am quite fond of this choice.

That aside, after posting the last screenshot, I started thinking. Why 8? Shouldn't it be 9, if it is to be about "outside awaits death"? What was 8 symbolically connected to? Rebirth?

>>16222
Yeah, it's certainly quite the different design from what we saw in the TV series.

By the way, Araragi and Gahara break up three times for the next five years.

Ah, it was certainly nice to see her again. Next season when? Kizu 3 is out, so I think it's time for Mayoi Hell.

Finally watched Kizu 2 and 3. Araragi was so handsome.

Ah no one mentioned it yet, there's a manga adaptation by Oh! great, the first chapter has been scanned.

I liked the show, but I've given up on trying to keep up with it all by now. Maybe once everything is finished I'll go back to it.

>>23950
Well the show is "finished" right now. There might be another 100 episodes of the epilogue novels later, but the finale has happened and the credits have rolled.

>>23951
But the last part of Owarimonogatari is airing this year.

>>23951
>>23952
Owarimonogatari is over, the next part in the series is Zoku-owarimonogatari which is a new arc.
But if you thought that Owarimonogatari was supposed to be the end of the series, then you're looking at it the wrong way. It's not the ending story, it's the story of endings. What ended was Araragi Koyomi's adolescence, but there is still plenty more to the story beyond that.

>>23954
Ah is that so huh?
I know a few spoilers about the later novels but I thought there was a pretty clean break from the story of his adolescence and where it goes in the future.
At the very least though, Owarimonogatari was the end of the "third season" right?

>>23959
I think Zoku-owarimonogatari is more like an epilogue of the third season, actually.
I'm not a novelfag but it looks like the novels since Zoku are about Araragi's college years. Can't seem to catch a break, can he?
It seems to me that the primary story is over, but Nisio figured that there is enough material to keep expanding on that there was no reason to just end it altogether.

>>23972
>It seems to me that the primary story is over, but Nisio figured that there is enough material to milk the series for all its worth and add to his retirement fund.
Fixed.

>>23981
He'll never have trouble paying his bills, and all the while he gets plenty of chances to work on side projects.
He's a smart businessman for sure.