No.15093
I'm on episode 78 of LOGH. I regret not doing this earlier.
No.15098
>>15094I've been putting it on hold because of the length.
No.15099
>>15098I mean, did you drop it after watching that episode?
No.15100
>>15099Oh my bad, no. I'm still watching it. I was referring to regretting not watching it earlier.
No.15127
>>15126None, indeed, but then why are you posting at all? We don't actually care what you've just watched. We may care for some verbal or illustrative reaction to it.
No.15142
>>15141Nah, it is not about the last episode. In short it might be said that it is a smartass parody of a sort. Parody of life with a lot of subtext and a cunning main character without becoming LOLDEEP, just fun ridiculousness.
No.15143
>>15141I found it quite enjoyable, although I very much so agree with not knowing why the praise for it is as high as it is.
The fairies nation/cty were the best episodes for me, but stuff like the time paradox episodes brought it down quite a bit.
No.15145
>>15141>>15143If anything, the time paradogs is oft cited as the best arc. What can I say? Some people (including me) fucking love vague stuff. You had to wrack your brain in order to get some plot points, and the paradogs arc is probably the worst offender. But, even that aside, I admit lots of stuff was just vague. In my case it just sparks my imagination, and leaves me wondering whether Romeo did have an explanation weaved in or I'm trying to overanalyze it. This sort of engage with the series is something I personally really love, and I suppose I'm not alone in this.
Vagueness aside, it shares a lot of the same charm that Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei has, what with the social commentary being the main point of the series, and with the humor being somewhat darker. And yeah, the smartass main character also helps. And it had superb animation, voice actors and music. And the time paradogs arc had the best moral ever: "The best company you can ever have is you yourself. Lots of yous."
No.15146
>>15141I loved Jinrui. Besides the dark humor, I really enjoy atypical presentation and I found the way Jinrui presented itself, its characters, and its world to be really fun and intriguing. It might just come down to how much you enjoy the characters themselves, but I think the praise is mostly because it's abstract and different.
No.15147
>>15146Added on to that, I think that it's one of the few anime to do an episodic series well all the way through. Each story explores a different possibility of dealing with insane and unpredictable fairies. My biggest complaint about it is that there wasn't more of it, because the premise has incredible potential and I would have liked to explore some more of the possibililities.
No.15152
Well, I've finished it now. I've gotta say, the MC displayed more personality in the last four episodes than she had for the first eight. Episodes 9 and 10 were by far my favourites.
It didn't have much of an ending though, and I guess I'm still bothered by how little you actually found out about the state of humanity or how we ended up like that.
>>15145I'm not really sure what the point of that arc was, beyond being a very long set up for the paradogs joke. I didn't like that arc much at all, mostly due to the amount of repetition involved where nothing actually new happened, which was frustrating to sit through.
I'm not sure why you say the animation was great either, because it was pretty average. The backgrounds were nice, though.
>>15146I liked the MC, but that's about it, really. Silver didn't have anything going for her beyond her yaoi obsession until the last episode, and I think the yaoi focus spoiled an otherwise interesting idea in the manga arc. Assistant was essentially an anti-character outside of that part of episode 8, and Grandpa didn't really have anything outside of cleaning guns and "I think you should suffer a bit, little girl".
The fairies were probably the most entertaining part of it but I'm not sure if you could really call them characters.
No.15156
>>15152>and I guess I'm still bothered by how little you actually found out about the state of humanity or how we ended up like that.>I'm not really sure what the point of that arc wasWant a spoiler from the end of the novels? okawus hasn't brought spoiler tags back, right? [spoiler]Right?[\spoiler]
No.15157
>>15156Anyway, SPOILER (kinda): They literally tell you during the paradogs arc that the Assistant is the last of his species. That is to say, he is the last Homo Sapiens on Earth.
No.15158
>>15157Wait, what does that make everyone else, then?
The show did mention him as being the last of a "tribe", but didn't go into any more detail.
No.15159
>>15158Everybody else is from the New Humanity, or in other words, they are fairies.
Uh, I don't actually remember? Maybe? I remember the assistant's origins being mysterious and not explained, and I was left wondering how the fuck was he the last, but I'm too lazy to watch the arc again to see if they give the "species" thing in direct text. When I heard the spoiler, though, everything clicked. This arc is like Nisemonogatari: it's actually pretty cool once you rewatch it and think more about it. Also there's the theory she had sex with her grandpa, which is also pretty fun.
No.15162
>>15159Wasn't he the old guy or something like that? I am pretty sure it wasn't something they tried to even hide at all. But I am might not be remembering correctly either.
No.15172
>>15163>>15162Oh fuck me, I didn't even realise. I thought her comment at the end about the old man taking the watch was going to be addressed later.
Okay, that definitely bumps up my opinion of that arc.
No.15173
I think I need to rewatch Jinrui. I don't remember enough about it to make these in-depth analyses.
No.15174
>>15172Toldya, it's by far the worst offender in the respect of hard to comprehend plot points. Objectively speaking, this is a bad side of it. They even repeated the whole episode, practically, trying to explain everything, but even like this it comes off unclear and vague. However, some people like this effect. It's like a puzzle, you have to fit the pieces yourself. Of course, if you aren't already interested in what the picture is, you would never bother solving the puzzle, so it will just fall flat. Looking at the bigger picture, though, I've heard rumors stuff like that is par for the course for a Romeo work.
That being said, I, like you, find the last episodes much better. In my case especially the last two, in the school.
No.15175
>>15174>I've heard rumors stuff like that is par for the course for a Romeo work. I know Romeo's name quite well but when I looked him up the only things of his I've read are Kana, Cross Channel, and Rewrite. I didn't get very far in Cross Channel, but Rewrite and Kana were both fairly straightforward, the former assuming you did all the routes. (Rewrite is amazing, so you should go read it, if you haven't.)
> It's like a puzzle, you have to fit the pieces yourself. Of course, if you aren't already interested in what the picture is, you would never bother solving the puzzle, so it will just fall flat.Yeah, I usually work under the assumption that things I'm confused about will be explained further down the line, and as such I don't spend too much time analysing each episode, especially when I'm not waiting for weekly episodes. Gotta say, if I'd stopped and thought about episodes 7 and 8 for ten seconds, it would've been pretty obvious.
No.15176
>>15175I've heard of whole books written on symbolism and theoricrafting for Cross Channel. But yeah, you are right, I should finally finish a VN or two, and maybe Romeo is my best bet for this. Tenshi no Inai 12-gatsu and Little Busters didn't manage to hold my attention span, and I haven't really tried anything else since then.
No.15213
>>15208I couldn't get more than a few episodes through Planetes because I was infuriated by the MC being a stupid bleeding heart who repeatedly endangered the lives of her coworkers so she could harp on about how she doesn't want to do her fucking job because of her feelings. And she doesn't suffer any consequences for it.
No.15215
Spoilers anytime soon admin?
>>15213>And she doesn't suffer any consequences for it.Well, if you're not going to finish it I may as well spoil that she gets paralyzed for it, if it's any consolation to you.
No.15216
>>15215I meant more in the sense of disciplinary action or getting fired.
No.15268
>>15240Well in the end I suppose it was mostly alright. Shirota got largely sidelined after Saeki was introduced, only for Saeki to go through the same character development that Shirota already had.
Most of the cast wasn't particularly developed, with Shirota, Momoi, and Aoyama being the only ones to get proper character arcs. Early on Akagi seems oddly passionate about protecting people's homes, which seemed to imply him having a trauma, perhaps from having lost his home in the first Heterodyne attack, but then it never comes up again and Akagi ends up being the least developed of the main cast. The side characters barely got anything at all, despite having a decent amount of screentime.
The episodes around the middle got a bit too bogged down with repeatedly putting 21st Century Security against the army, and there was a jarring change of animation director for episodes 21 and 22.
While the last Heterodyne made for a great finale, the ending wasn't particularly good and offered pretty much no closure, with everyone still fighting Heterodynes and no end in sight, with the only resolution being that the final Heterodyne we saw was defeated safely.
I somewhat get the impression that it was envisioned as being a long-running series, but didn't do well enough for that to happen.
Also, Irie is best girl.
No.15450
>>15449Where'd you find it?
No.15451
>>15450When in doubt. It's probably AB.
No.15477
>>15476Oh wow, I recently watched it as well. Seems like they skipped a lot of the story in S3. Especially in regards to Kuroneko's development. They probably did in the first two seasons as well, but the sudden change to dere Kuroneko made it really evident in this season.
Probably will have to read the LN one of these days.
No.15478
>>15477>KuronekoI do agree, though. Kiba's arc in S2 felt somewhat rushed, but Koneko's arc in S3 was far worse. She just abruptly became a pretty different person. It wasn't done well at all. Astaroth was the same, really. The shit with him came out of nowhere and was resolved quite quickly.
Also, the show needs more Aika.
No.15523
i don't know if this time is the one or two dozen times i had watch and finish this serie. But wouldn't you agree that thing is the worst villain ever exist,.
No.15525
>>15521If you'd waited two more days you could've at least had SallySubs' BD version instead of Funi's subs.
No.15527
>>15525Fuck you, Murphy. I watched only ep10 with them. Well, guess it's time to archive.
No.15569
I've been watching Zeta Gundam now that IBO is over. When I watched Victory and G-Reco I found them quite hard to follow, and now I'm seeing with Zeta that this seems to be a common trait of Tomino's shows. They spend very little time explaining the setting or introducing characters, which makes it hard to remember many of them or follow the plot. Episode 6 had Kamille suddenly infatuated with Reccoa, a person who I had no idea who she was before this episode. It also added another ship tagging along with the White Base 2.0, which got introduced, brushed over, and then destroyed with just as little notice.
Kamille also sure is a little shit. The first episode had him punching Jerid for making a passing remark about his name, and attacking the MP for being rude to him, and then when he gets his shit kicked in for ignoring an assembly call he cries that he's just getting hit for no reason and one shouldn't resort to violence.
>>15557Was this followed up by the MC recoiling from the pain of banging his funny bone on that wall?
No.15570
>>15569I never understood this way of thinking about Tomino. It is not true. G-Reco was a mess. His old stories were just amateurish, but they are actually very easy to follow. Not particularly engaging, but not as much of a mess as G-Reco.
No.15571
>>15569Nope, he didn't really pay it attention at all. I guess Master Saya manages to be a soft washboard.
No.15572
>>15570Nah man, the first several episodes of Victory were a confusing mess. I watched the first two about three times before moving on. Around ten episodes in the pace slowed down and it became much easier to follow from then on, but it's clearly a problem with Tomino's directing.
Hell, it's only now in episode 11 that someone made an offhand comment that the Titans were formed to track down Zeon remnants. I'm not sure that anyone in Zeta has said what the A.E.U.G. stands for yet. (Though after checking episode 1 again, the dub track plainly said Anti-Earth Union Group while the subtitles just used the abbreviation.)
No.15606
Akito's last episode finally has working subs.
Shame it was shit.
No.15607
>>15606I never even watched.
No.15609
>>15608I thought the first two episodes were great, mostly due to the amazing CGI animation and fight scenes. Then episode 3 gets sidetracked with gypsies for the entire episode, and 4 got pretty stupid with
"if you kill this psychotic nutjob you'll be a monster yourself!" nonsense.
Episode 5 was absurd enough that I hardly even have words for how much I disliked it. It's a real shame after how amazing the ending of the original series was.
No.15735
>>15734Oh, man, I completely forgot about Project Itoh movies.
No.15736
>>15735Yeah it's like they went past under everyone's radar.
No.15737
>>15736I personally always forget about movies seeing as the subs usually take so long to come out.
On that note, how is the trnaslation there? About as good as could be expected from jpn>cn>eng?
No.15738
>>15737Yeah, it was watchable. If I'm not wrong it was tled with the english book as a guide.
No.15739
>>15734I really fail to understand the point of this movie. There wasn't much story or meaningful progression of anything. Tuan was investigating things, but it wasn't a mystery. It was mostly just backstory that doesn't matter, explaining some futuristic technology and some monologues and delusions that supposedly Tean thinking about psychophysical things. But it is not like there was any criticism about anything. Humans can be barbaric? Well, duh. The Lifeism thing people would naturally think is suppose to be a creepy utopia, but there wasn't really much criticism of it either. Miach was able to talk for 2 or 3 minutes how she was raped, but then she spoke of the neighbour kid killing itself, because it felt like not belonging. That is it. "It kills with kindness." The end. Nothing else to say about it. I don't really understand why Tuan was surprised by Miach intentions, I thought it was suppose to be a known thing by this point. Miach being born in a bloodline with natural lack of concious, having harmony, was very stupid and it seems like the author might be lacking in imagination when it comes to humans. The whole movie can be compressed to the last 10 minutes and talking about human concious and choice, but even then not much was said. Now people have no concious, so there is harmony. Wuuu spooky skeletons under the bed. Honestly for me this movie is overall bellow average.
No.15741
>>15739
>The Lifeism thing people would naturally think is suppose to be a creepy utopia, but there wasn't really much criticism of it either. It's not just "killing with kindness" and being forced to conform to a health life as mandated by officials, but there's also surveillance and having your body connected to a server 24/7.
>There wasn't much story or meaningful progression of anything.I think this is because the ending lacked some punch as the conclusion Tuan chose was basically
throw everything away for harmony except Miach. I feel like the movie failed to deliver some minor but important details to smooth out the whole story but I'll have to re-read the novel to find those out as it has been years.
No.15743
>>15741Being connected to a server didn't seem to be much of a problem for anyone. And while some mild brainwashing was probably happening in the counselling, the society was moving by its own wish for a healthy, long and prosperous life. They didn't really show us any negatives, nor how heavily any of this is truly forced on people. Did I miss a "you have to get this job" system? As far as I can tell the kid that hung itself could have done anything it wanted. How was it being oppressed so much it had to die? It sounds like teenager bullshit. They didn't monitor thought or/and prevented crimes with world-wide monitoring. There were even plenty of people living without being on WatchMe and the mysterious faces didn't seem worry about subjugating them even though in the new harmony world they could be quite dangerous. It is not like they didn't have the power to be as totalitarian as they want, considering they were able to kill the concious of everyone in the system, but interestingly enough they even lacked the power to censor the media even when it was for something positive as to not create panic all over the world.
I don't really see what you mean by "throwing away everything." Tuan could not have prevented anything. In fact in a quite cinematic scene the harmony was activated why she was in the middle of nowhere not able to do anything. All she did was kill her friend, so she would not lose the personality that she loved. Not even for the dead of her father that she pretended to care about earlier. She just acted on her lesbian instincts.
I watched Shisha no Teikoku too. It was pretty much the same, except 200 years earlier. You could say at least that there was a story, but it all go down basically the same road of concious/soul without saying much. Supposedly Itoh didn't finish it himself, but I don't think it would have mattered. I really don't understand why he is so praised. I don't know, maybe he has a way with words, I haven't read the books, but his stories are nothing special.
On the side note, RIP Manglobe.
No.15791
>>15790The movies are riddled with ugly CGI. They look great when they're drawn properly but that's not often, and the Eclipse in the movies is an utter joke because of the CGI.
In terms of it telling the story, it probably does a better job as it skips less things, but while I haven't read the manga, I've heard that the movies still skipped things and rearranged other events.
No.15810
>>15791The manga is absolutely worth reading. If any manga were to have the title of 'masterpiece', it would be Berserk.
No.15811
>>15810Please, no. Even when it was good, until Griffin came back, it wasn't that good. After that it is nonstop pansy nakama bullshit "muh adventure". iDOLM@STER is better than that.
And people you do realize that by saging so much you are decreasing the chances of anyone noticing your post, right? Or do you have so little self-respect you don't think any of your posts are worth a bump?
No.15812
>>15810I don't want to read the manga until it's actually finished. There's too much of it to get invested in which would make it all the more disappointing if Miura got hit by a truck or something.
No.16453
I've been watching Sora no Woto, since I found out the PSP VN got translated and figured I should bump it up on my list.
It's incredibly melodramatic. But at least Kanata getting sick in episode 3 was Malaria and not just another ridiculous Japanese cold.
That aside, I'm bothered by how much time is being spent on the characters faffing about compared to actually building the world. It's like it can't decide whether it wants to just be a SoL or something more.
No.16914
>>16913I really liked this anime.
No.16921
>>16920It's been a few years since I watched it but I do remember liking the characters in general. I'd give examples, but unfortunately I'm bad at remembering specifics.
I've found that with shows like this, your enjoyment really does boil down to how much you like the characters.
No.16993
I forgot this was getting some ovas.
>[GJM] Mahou Tsukai no Yome ~Hoshi Matsu Hito~ - 01 [ABEBA2C0].mkv
No.17021
It's not like Alpenrose was only bad sides.
The Count. Damn, I'm in love. Especially after this scene in the last episode, it was so fucking cool. He made pretty much every episode he had screentime in better. Ruined Ambition was the best episode in the series. And so on. Certainly shone, especially when compared to most of the other villains, who had zero characterization or sense.
The butler. He was surprisingly competent. Not once or twice, constantly.
The stupid henchmen were okay too. Also, damn stupid.
The redhead from The Lonely Piano. She was cool, why did they forget her so fast?
Leon was okay. Though he should have scored with Randi.
The pacing wasn't bad, nothing was drawn out too much.
That being said, this anime also had plenty of bad sides. When it wasn't a disgusting soap opera, it was so lackluster with the plot that I'm left to wonder why did they even try. They could have kept to the soap opera. The main characters' strongest points were how bullyable were they. Frankly, I was surprised to see even shred of common sense in the last few episodes, when they told Leon to not walk around trying to get in trouble. They obviously changed staff and animation directors at least several times, though the quality was constantly low. And the rip I watched had earcancer audio, but that's another question.
Fuck it, let's end this on a high note. Really, the Count was so great that he almost made the whole experience worth it.
No.17117
>>15194Every now and then I rewatch an old series in order to verify if it's really that good, or it's just nostalgia googles that make me praise it.
I was wrong, though.
The damedamedames are even better than I thought.
No.17140
Slayers was going well, but the Shabranigdo fight was the worst episode so far. Just a whole 10 minutes of spells bouncing off him until Lina uses a stronger spell and beats him.
The second arc hasn't been as enjoyable as the first; the new characters are pretty one-note. But it's still good.
>>17117But why is Nero such a bitch?
No.17142
>>17140Pretty sure the answer to this is "food".
The second arc was with Xellos, right? Xellos was fun.
No.17415
>>17404Everyone's going to feel differently here, but most of what comes after the part the anime covered is much better to me. In particular, the last couple volumes have been exceptional. The only thing I've outright hated since then was the adventures of Sebas and Climb.
I suppose I'm just not a fan of the adventuring stuff you see in every LN ever, which stops completely where the anime left off, replaced by conquering and a lot of insight into the various nations of the NW/the denizens of Nazarick.
No.17441
>>17415The problem with Climb is that we get his PoV for entire chapters at a time for some godawful reason. Unlike Lizards, which at the very least didn't actually think using Fairy Tail tier logic, or Dwarves, who didn't actually eat up that much perspective time and were generally like Lizards in their thinking, Climb is in the wrong series and isn't being played for laughs, making him utterly insufferable.
There's irony in that every significant character BUT Climb knows Renner is everything Climb thinks she isn't, but this only makes it more annoying when he goes off on long rants about her perfection, especially with Renner actually acting that way around him.
I'm seriously waiting for Renner to angel-fy herself or whatever she's going to do with that item so Climb can fall into the pit of despair trying to compete with Demiurge, I've had enough of the faggot. He doesn't even have the whole underdog thing going for him, Gazef flat out said Climb will never be a great warrior like Brain or himself, and the only way he'll ever pose any sort of threat to Nazarick is with something like World Saviour or Lance of Longinus which just reeks of asspull.
>I suppose I'm just not a fan of the adventuring stuffThe adventuring stuff isn't really the focus even during the adventures. Volume 2 was just about the only adventuring volume if I remember correctly and it was mainly build-up for Momon to become a living legend and for Ainz to learn stuff about the world. Volume 3 was Shalltear and Ainz preparing to fight / fighting the strongest guardian.
No.17468
>>17464>for a duel where it's obvious what the outcome will be anyway.Isn't that almost every duel? Get ready for the filler arc in the middle of the Battle City arc. It is not very interesting, but after that during the tournament finals you will get some of the coolest duels.
No.17492
Sat through nine episodes of this but in the end the near constant 'saitei hentai' screeching got too much for me. Yaya was cute at first but as more girls got introduced she became unberable. Bastards didn't even show that many lolitits to make up for it. Also plot was also generic trash and awful cg.
I absolutley love the ED though, at least I can take that away from this.
>https://openings.moe/?video=Ending1-MachinedollWaKizutsukanai No.17517
>>17492Thanks, every now and then I had this little thought in my head that I should finish Machinedoll one day. I guess this will stop now.
But yeah, Yaya was cute. I don't even remember how much I saw from the anime, I think I just read what was translated from the manga way before the anime was announced.
No.17538
>>17140And finished S1. That second half was rather a chore. The show was much better when focused on light-hearted adventuring than the serious plot, and the second half had nonsense like a second dark lord and the Giga Slave being a spell using the power of another dark lord which could destroy the world if cast incorrectly, which raises the questions for the viewer of how Lina learnt it, who else would know it or have used it in the past, and how anyone would know it would destroy the world given it clearly hasn't been cast incorrectly yet, but the show does nothing to address any of those. And then they beat Copy Rezo at the end by just stumbling across a legendary sword in a cave.
I hope the following series do a better job of world building if they're going to keep on with fighting dark lords and saving the world.
No.17616
>>17614
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No.17617
test>>17616When did that change? I was using the old spoiler tags when I posted
>>15609 No.17619
>>17617Okay nah, something about this big post is breaking it. The spoiler tags work fine when I make these small posts, but when I try to use them for that big post they're just not doing anything. Where's the admin at?
No.17620
>>17619**probably
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No.17621
>>17620Well, there you go. That needs to get fixed anyway, since they should be working across lines and cutting everything down to one huge line is hell for readability.
No.17622
you can also use BBCODE spoiler tags in brackets instead of markdow. That has always worked
No.17644
Hurrah, the tags are fixed now.
I just got around to Dangan Ronpa 3 after deciding to put it off until finishing UDG. It had a pretty strong start but shat itself towards the end with stupid twists, retcons, the fucking atrocious episode that followed up UDG, and poor explanations in general.
Junko has her character motivation retconned into being that she has super analytical powers, and so she's bored with the world and seeks despair because it's random and unpredictable. Which is a decent enough motivation, but not when they're only introducing it now.
Jataro, Nagisa, and the other kid that died in UDG are retconned to be alive as they appear in the UDG episode with zero explanation. Komaru and Fukuwa were apparently aware that Monaka was still alive the entire time but only bothered to go after her when the UDG episode rolled along, at which point she's revealed to be a NEET who finds her despair obsession from UDG to be an embarrassing memory because she found Nagito annoying, which is an absolutely horrid way to follow up UDG's genuine atrocities with shitty humour as she gets away with it scot-free.
Kamukura is shown in episode 6 or 7 awaiting the coming fleet with his long hair and red eyes, but when he appears in the final episode he has Hinata's hair and one green eye.
UDG seems to imply that Nagito was never actually inflicted with despair, and was instead just such a hope maniac that it didn't matter to him, and that he was a counter to Junko, with Junko aiming to give people hope only to show them despair, while Nagito gave people despair so that they would overcome it with hope, but DR3 totally drops this.
No.17645
There's no explanation given for how Munakata managed to survive and get by for so long with a hole through his shoulder and then later his stomach, and then cutting his arm off on top of that (and it's also ridiculous that no one had tried that until then).
Mitarai is perhaps the most ridiculous part. There's no explanation of how he managed to survive the Incident or end up with Future Foundation, and Chisa and Tengan were both aware that he was responsible for the videos that caused the Incident, so presumably others would be too. It's crazy to think that he wouldn't have been assumed to be a Despair himself, or at least persecuted or attacked for it, which we never see. Tengan's whole plan was also retarded and it makes no sense that he had to start killing people to make Mitarai broadcast the video, and they never bother to explain why he had to be pushed to do this in the first place. They also flip back and forth on whether or not Tengan was inflicted with Despair after the reveal.
At the end the Remnants make a broadcast implicating themselves as the perpetrators of the killing game in order to save people the despair of knowing Tengan did it, as the writers completely overlook that this will implicate Makoto for having harboured them despite that the broadcast has now shown them to be clearly still Despair-inflicted, so Makoto is absolutely fucked as a result, and they all get on a boat to nowhere instead of staying and atoning for their sins by helping fight the Despairs while showing that Makoto saved them, which would have been a far more hopeful conclusion. Also, DR3 claimed that Makoto was brought to the tower to be questioned about harbouring them before having found out if they were cured or not, which blatantly contradicts DR2's ending.
No.17646
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And of course, this is topped off by all the dead characters from DR2 being brought back to life by Kamukura, which at least can be partially excused by DR2's ending implying there was possible hope for them, but they kill off Kirigiri and then bring her back to life with a magic potion that she apparently got from Seiko despite only having seen her for a second when examining her, which Seiko never had any time or resources to make, and which Kirigiri didn't tell anyone about, despite potentially being able to save several lives. This one is just a complete ass pull for the sake of a super happy ending instead of a bittersweet one. Chiaki is still dead, so why compromise?
Oh, and Makoto didn't even do anything at the end. Good job, Hope.
As an aside, this actually had some of most gruesome and violent content I've seen in a TV anime, so I'm surprised it was able to air with as little censorship as it got.
No.17661
>>17657Funi producing quality as always. Have some more recent examples.
https://a.pomf.cat/jisyvg.webmhttps://puu.sh/s2BpF/91d010c1bc.webmAfter some further thought, the way that Makoto is so totally irrelevant to the ending shit all over DR3 as a whole, given how the first episode ends with Monokuma telling him that it would be their last and greatest game of despair vs hope and the final battle of Naegi Makoto, so it totally failed to deliver on that front. It also makes no sense when you consider what Tengan's motives for setting up the game were and that they didn't really even have anything to do with Makoto being there, so there was no reason for him to have created a message like that. Just one more fuckup on the pile, I guess. No.17770
So the trailer for the GitS movie is shit.
No.17772
>>17770I dunno, the only thing I downright hated about it was the way her bodysuit thing looked. Not that I've really got much of an opinion on it since
I never really liked GitS anyway. No.17774
>>17772Opinions on the directoring, at least?
That being said, obviously they will make a complete mess from the story. They alluded to some origin story of Motoko, we have the dolls from the braincase swap case, and we have the fight scene with the garbage man, AND we have Motoko being called "the first of her kind", and how "next time she will make her better". What the fuck. This won't have much in common with actual GitS, eh?
Then again, if we set the bar as "Arise", it's not too bad. I actually liked Scarlet, she'll make for a better Major than Arise's Motoko.
No.17891
>>17890Yeah, back when I was watching it I didn't know it was only going to be one cour, and so when the semi-final episode rolled around I was thinking "boy, this plot sure is getting crazy for only halfway through". It's a shame, it would've been pretty great as a two cour show.
>Pretty excited for the new series now, hopefully the new MC will be at least a little more interesting than amira and Rita better get plenty of screentime.They're making a spinoff?
No.17892
>>17891There is a spinoff that ran into production hell earlier this year and didn't air, but there's also going to be a regular second season soon. I definitely agree that it would be great as 2 cours. I'm looking forward to the second season.
No.17949
>>17927I got too frustrated that it's not gonna be anything like Lukyanenko around the third episode and dropped it. And, while I was at it, I preemptively dropped SAO too, even though it still had a month or two till its first episode.
Seriously, can't we get an anime retelling of the trilogy about the Deep? Am I too greedy?
No.17964
>>17963At some level I find the 3 cours being better than the first season.
No.17966
>>17964Come on, don't leave me hanging, what level would that be?
No.17967
>>17966Probably it is the most about who was the centre of attention. Most of the time in season one was spend on the 3 teenage main characters and them being high schoolers did play a role in their arcs. After that they are not only less of high schoolers as characters, the story overall branched even more to the rest of the cast, including a lot of new cast too.
No.17969
>>17967That was one of my least favourite things about it actually. Mikado was one of the few characters I was really interested in following after the first cour, so I was pretty let down by how little screentime he got.
Also who the fuck was this guy? I vaguely remember him from the first season but it seemed so strange to me that with all the new characters they introduced that one of the main antagonists was someone who had such little screentime. Then again, I get the impression that the author is adverse to actually harming any of the relevant characters so it makes sense in that way I guess.
No.17973
>>17969Well we definitely differ in that, because to me he was the most boring out of all. In retrospection it is probably because he was the annoying normal guy trying so hard to not be normal that he went full edgy.
You mentioned not liking that the end was around Celty, but a big point in the series from the start to the end, and just that more talked about in the second part, was that Celty was the ignition key to most of what was happening in Ikebukuro. The presence of her magical self alone was what made a lot of people seek the same magic for their own lives and so they acted trying to break out of their normal lives to the extend they made the abnormal daily. Though there were also some people that instead of trying too hard were actually able to loosen up and be more free with their action as they would be justified and accepted just as another part of the Ikebukuro's craziness. So everything being somehow connected to Celty and ending with Celty was very much where the story was going.
All of that said the person we as viewers and readers are closest to are the background characters of Ikebukuro, which are just listening about stuff on the news and from time to time might see something intense happening nearby. But they are really not a part of the magical. In a way at the end Mikado himself had to stand in front of Celty and realize for himself that no matter how close he was to her he himself was still not the pure magic she is.
Though I watched the original Durarara!! in 2010, when it aired, and followed this one while it was airing and considering I don't myself remember who that guy from the pic was, I am just sort of pulling stuff out of my ass. So especially with the last episode being a lot fresher to you might think I am talking bullshit about it.
No.17975
>>17973My problem was what she did was that she just shows up and takes the blame for everything the characters have done. I think at that point Mikado was already sick of trying to be abnormal yet didn't know how to stop, hence the suicide attempt. What I thought she did for him was just absolve him of all responsibility for his actions and I detest that after all shit that he pulled at the end he can just go back to normal like nothing at all happened. It's the sort of ending that makes me not care about the sequel at all, because I just feel that the author will have all the same characters go through similar motions again and again and never really go anywhere with them.
No.18017
>>18011Is this the DaL movie or something? I never got around to watching it
How much does Kurumi feature? I really can't bring myself to give a shit about any of them but Crazy Clock.
No.18018
>>18017She gets next to no time unfortunately, she just shows up occasionally to hint at what's going on.
No.18026
>>18018Shit I guess I'll just download it and watch it when I have nothing else to do
No.18034
>>18031Yeah that bummed me a little, she was the
2nd cutest character.
I wonder if the losing memories thing was planned from the start. I found it strange how they quickly resolved Haruto going frenzied at the start of the second season just to introduce that instead. I'm not conviced the writers knew where they were going at all.
No.18158
>>18011>disliking Origamifaggot. She'd obviously make for the best wife. And the sex will never get boring.
The movie was indeed pretty nice for a DAL movie. Plot made me expect something ala nisioisin, I mean, that the movie girl is actually part of MC the way Ougi is part of Koyomi, but of course it was the plainest and shallowest possible explanation. But it was an okay film, all in all.
Also obviously some key animator is a Manafag, so he did this scene really lovingly, in my opinion.
>>18026You get about two minutes all in all. At least they know their target audience and more money went into these two minutes than most of the rest of the scenes.
No.18164
>>18158Origami a shit. A SHIT. The best part of S1 was seeing her alone and unloved at the end after all the shit she pulled.
No.18165
This was pretty fucking lame, why even bother introducing a cute succubus loli if she's not going to get the fang?
>>18164This, I don't even remember what she did, I just know deep inside that she's an utter shit.
No.18166
>>18165She spent the entire season being a bitch and making situations worse by disregarding orders, like shooting at Touka when told to stand down and making her enter rage mode early on, and also tried to kill imouto-Kuuko under a case of mistaken identity, and continued with this even after learning that she was mistaken, causing a great deal of damage to public property and risking the lives of thousands of innocent bystanders in the process.
Fuck Origami.
No.18193
>>18167Kurumi exists, and she's entertaining despite being kind of obnoxiously insane.
No.18195
>>18193She's entertaining exactly by being obnoxiously insane. At start she was just obnoxious, which wasn't exactly the best thing ever, but then they started showing her more and more insane too. If she was just insane, it'd be kind of boring.
No.18350
>>18173That movie was such good fun. As usual, the Finns were the best.
>six more moviesWait what?
No.18351
>>18350>http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1029663.htmlI think if I'm reading this right they're just double length episodes rather than more full length movies, but yeah, we should be getting more by the end of the year.
No.18619
>>18606There's no help on the NHK ride.
No.18731
>>18662Schwarzmarken was bad because Theo is a massive fucking prick and abandoned Lise.
No.18732
>>18731Schwarzmarken was bad because the TSFs flew which is just as retarded as it was in Total Eclipse.
No.18740
>>18739Zeta got good? I fell off watching it a few episodes after Char blew off their peace talks by getting into a fight with a little girl. I don't even remember what was going on at this point.
No.18741
>>18740I remember liking Zeta a lot. Can't remember too much about it aside from Four, but I think I'd rate it over 79 and ZZ.
No.18742
>>18740I honestly disliked the middle part, it was pretty complicated and some of the character were annoying me, but it just grew on me in the middle. I still like 0079 more, even if it was formulaic, and had lots of QUALITY moments, the relatively compelling story, the character development and the characters overall made me like it more than Zeta
No.18858
>>18848Four had one of the worst death scenes I've ever seen in anime. It was almost as bad as that bitch in Eternal Sonata.
No.18912
>>18911Why would you drop it 36 episodes in? How many more episodes are there?
No.18916
>>1891213. Yeah, it seems stupid to drop it having seen 75% of it, but so does the show.
No.19147
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Didn't find this very satisfying. Introduced some new characters and gave everyone powerups but didn't feel like it moved the plot forward at all. I hope they've got a another season or something planned because this would feel like a shitty place to leave the show at.
No.19148
>>19147As the one that uploaded the file it is sure weird to have not seen yet.
No.19427
Ghost Hound was quite nice. They managed to wrap up a lot more subplots than I thought they would be able to. Sasuga Shirow. It's kind of beautiful how everything by itself wasn't that complicated, but it was hard to separate what mattered to what plot, and what didn't.
That being said, all the moms in this anime were trash. And only one mom got any character development - or at least character study - to make her a little more relatable, even if no less trash. The fathers were generally better, and the gang themselves were quite engaging and likable, and practically every one of them got some sort of vindication in the last episode. But the subplots of the moms were just ignored, even more than the almost red herring of the animal spirit forms.
And then there's Miyako's subplot, that I'm not completely sure I understand. We know she can sense the supernatural, and if a supernatural being enters some range around her, she can also see it. But does she have shamanistic qualities? Can she channel spirits? Or was it just a fucked up sense of self-identity? Certainly the last episode seems to imply the last part. Which is slightly weird, because it means my mind is more willing to accept that Miyako can summon hair fairies at will than to accept that Miyako was possessed by the God of One Word. I mean, if she indeed was possessed, that plotline was left completely hanging in the air, much worse than the moms that just got no backstory or relatability.
And then there was the actual red herring with the spirit that relives his death again and again, and how he deepthroated some random fucker. I think the only consequence of this was that the fucker started seeing the spirits from time to time.
That being said, the use of scientific terms borders between mind-numbing and interesting, depending on whether you feel like researching them a little more by yourself while the episode is waiting for you, or not. To contrast with this, the dialect they were speaking in was so bonkers that I couldn't help but constantly notice it (suimasheen). As for the other technical sides of this series besides scriptwriting, the animation suffered from sameface syndrome, so much that it actively detracted from viewing enjoyment from time to time for me. On the other hand, the soundtrack was 10/10.
Especially the opening theme.
And that's about all I can say before I start ranking who the best husbando would be. Great FukuJun role, by the way.
No.19593
>>19592Gaim was pretty great and from what I understand no other KR series is much like it. I definitely wouldn't recommend Fourze; I watched that a few months ago and it really wasn't good at all, especially compared to Gaim. It has pretty much nothing happen at all until episode 30-something where the plot finally goes somewhere for a few episodes, then it's more episodic rubbish. There are dozens of totally wasted characters and the whole shtick of the MC wanting to be friends with everyone is kind of wasted when most of the people he helps never show up again. Also, it's loaded with crappy CGI from an earlier time than Gaim. Basically the only good thing about Fourze is that the director clearly likes legs.
The only other KR series I've seen so far is Black, and while largely episodic, I liked that a lot more. It helped that it had much better SFX and monsters. I'm thinking of watching Amazon next.
Speaking of Garo, I'm going through the first season of that now, actually. It's definitely on the monster of the week side, and I don't like the rival character one bit, especially since he looks like a pansy too.
No.19611
>>19610I remembered everybody, but simply couldn't get beyond the fact Galko went to a piano recital with these sailor-ish mini pieces. I bet she just wanted to show off how clean her belly button is.
No.19613
>>19611I couldn't get beyond the fact that Galko was constipated for an entire week and wasn't going to a hospital.
No.19619
Finally watched Shirobako. It's suffering from all the flaws I expected it to have, back when I dropped it after the first episode nearly three years ago. Frankly, it was really fucking hard to ignore Tarou, or the fake drama. No conflict, no reasonable character development, no nothing. The whole saga around the editor in the second half was simply inexcusable, and ruined any immersion or believability. You can't just slap in non-characters like the editor or Tarou and expect them to work in a cast that at least resembles human beings and has at least hint of reality to it.
But, as long as you manage to ignore the fake drama and the Tarous of the anime, it was quite the enjoyable SoL about anime production. I wish the ADs kissed at the end. Smug Erika best girl. Ms Diesel also best girl. The Rec ripoff was boring. The half-words girl was funny, especially in her jealousy. There are at least a dozen of characters that left stronger impressions in me than Emi and the CGi girl. Aoi-jou was a competent protagonist. I expected her sanity to suffer more… actually, let me correct myself. I would have preferred her sanity to suffer more. I still can't understand how the fatty turned into bishie. I still remember that one time it happened in Basquash. Hiraoka was okay, he was the least fake of all the drama in this riddled with fake drama anime. The old guy was cool. But, more than any of the characters, what makes this SoL enjoyable is how you as the audience know how you'd personally react to these staffing choices. At the same time you get their slice of life from their own eyes, and you're completely aware how the whole situation looks like from the outside. Which is nice and shit. It's pretty much a must-watch for any anime fan who follows at least a little what staff makes each series. If only the writing was better, and they didn't depend on fake drama…
No.19632
>>19631Oh, also I forgot to mention the several scenes, directly copied from GitS. That was weird.
No.19752
Maria was fucking great. I mean, I'd heard it has accurate depiction of historical european martial arts, which is totally my fetish, but it had one more design element that I totally didn't expect. It had actual New Testament-style angels. The japs always portray the angels as either kind of bad, or as something closer to Lawful Evil than to anything else. You know, if you want to ground it in actual Christianity, you'd say they are Old Testament-style at best. But not in Maria. Power-hungry church, yes, but the angels weren't oppressors, even considering the plot of the anime.
Setting aside, though, it was a good series anyway, with decent writing and lively characters with sympathetic worldviews. Practically all of them. Maybe the sociopath monk wasn't exactly the most relatable, but he was still a decent portrayal of a sociopath. If I have to complain, it is that the first few episodes don't do much to sell the series to you. There is a huge chance you'd just skip it, thinking the HEMA will be an irrelevant gimmick, and the angels will be the same LE as everywhere else, and the story will be sugary and so on, thus concluding that there isn't much of a point in watching it, even if it isn't showing too many bad flags. But in actuality it's a nice series.
No.19756
>>19752Aw man, Junketsu no Maria threads were the best back when the series was airing. Small enough that the shitposting was minimal and actual discussion could take place. The nerding over the well researched medieval warfare shit was fun and educative. We had a moonfag help translate animator's notes on each episode. Remember when Galfa is beating that one asshole with a sword he's holding by the blade? Even the animators were weirded out that was a real thing.
Regarding the plot, I enjoyed it but felt the end was unimpressive. It left me with the impression that Maria hadn't learned anything at the end of it all. But then again, I can't imagine any other end to the series. Also, it has been a while since it aired and I can't say I remember all details about the plot, I just remember the impression it left me with.
I do remember the end of the nutso monk being fucking awesome at the time. The discussions THAT generated were amazing. It was such a fun show to follow with the internet.
No.19771
>>19756Man, I wish I had followed it through while it was airing. I'll hold this regret for my whole life.
Maria did learn to stop getting hung on what other people do so much, and to focus on herself. Which I quite loved as an end indeed.
No.19772
>>19771Holy shit I'm actually upset none of the 4chan archives seem to have anything from back then. All of the fun, theological debates, and Ezekiel wanking circles have been lost to the ether! I remember with especial fondness when we learned that Galfa's prosthetic arm was based on a real one from back then. Like, could you actually have expected a show called "Maria the Virgin Witch" to be so fucking educational on the medical technological advances of bloody medieval France?
There were two big shitposting moments in the series, the first being - obviously - the dog thing, and later the wuestion of "DID GALFA REALLY RAPE HER/IT WAS JUST THE TIP". Amonng that, well, Ezekiel was everyone's favorite pigeon to bully.
I actually saved a post from back then, because I liked it so much. It's about Joseph Vs angel: You stand between me and my Witch. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living mortal or Messenger of Heaven, I will smite you, if you touch her.
Watching these tiny shows with /a/ is one of the main reasons I'm not lazy and just wait for seasons to finish. I recently watched Samurai Flamenco and holy shit, what a ride that was. I can only imagine how fun that must have been to watch with friends.
No.19774
>>19772Looking back to it, of course it's based on a real arm. Why did I even doubt that.
The dog thing?
Even little girls bully Poppy-chan.
I often save posts, exactly because I've seen too many archives die on me. Joseph was probably one of the more lackluster characters in this anime. I liked even the cat familiar more.
I was disappointed by Samenco, tho. The fifth episode was so out of place, that everything after that I just couldn't accept as real. And indeed, the reveal in the end was that it wasn't exactly real. Even so, once I'd lost the suspension of disbelief, I didn't really feel like following it or shitposting with 4chan about it. I actually finished the second half of the series like an year later. But the threads about the first four episodes were quite nice indeed. I wish we could get an entire anime like them.
No.19776
>>19774Remember when maria goes "I don't care about sex, I'd even give my virginity to a dog"? That's the dog thing. And you may want to check out the manga! There's no Bernard or Galfa, but Joseph is quite different.
I think the reason I liked SamuMenco so much was exactly why you didn't like it, haha! The moment I realized the show was just going to do its own demented thing was amazing. The PM is a villian with a suit powered by the approval of the people. An alien voiced by Akira Ishida. It was all so mad that Goto's thing with his girlfriend felt almost sobering. It was just… such an experience. Never before had an anime taken me for a ride that way! But I definitely get how it is different from people to people, lol.
No.19780
>>19756I want to bully Ezekiel.
>>19752>sociopathBut he was a genius, came up with philosophy hundreds of years ahead of his time. Shame he got so salty when the angel proved his ideas wrong.
No.19782
>>19776>Remember when maria goes "I don't care about sex, I'd even give my virginity to a dog"?Oh yeah. There was that too. I'll see the manga definitely.
>>19780The geniuses are often sociopaths.
>Galfa is so alphakek
>Why is there a celtic god in France?Actually, the eyes point towards it also being an Old God. Maybe Nyarlathotep, he has eyes like that, Cernunnus is never portrayed with three eyes, afaik. Makes me think Jesus was also a witch, who transcended to God. That's probably the aspect of the worldbuilding that interests me the most.
>>19781I thought the townfolk just didn't really realize what's going on, but I guess it's kind of the point that for them both witches and angels are part of the "normal", so they act normally around them. My favourite moment with Gilbert however was when he realized all the medicine he had been using up to then was produced by a witch.
No.19784
>>19780Bless you, you moor. You have no idea how happy seeing someone from back then makes me. I've had a particularly shitty day and seeing this image brought back some really nice memories. I needed that.
May a succubus visit you tonight.
No.19788
>>19782Most of them stopped what they were doing and got on their knees, so they knew what was going on.
It's not that angels are normal to them, it was still their first time seeing one, they just don't doubt their existence. It's kind of like if the King showed up and started asking questions, no one there has ever met the king and he is very important and famous. But it's not like you'd be shocked to learn he exist. Like why wouldn't he? Everyone says he does, so he does.
So you just kneel politely and answer.
The only ones with big reactions are those in the church who understand more about an angels significance.
Man I just realized when Bernard tries to attack Micheal, Gilbert calls out to Micheal rather than Bernard. That's awesome.
>>19784It wasn't that long ago but no problem anon. I'd rather have a dovey to cuddle than a succubus tonight though.
Everyone in those threads was way smarter than me so it was nice to learn stuff, Houkago no Pleiades threads were the same way.
No.19789
>>19788I watched Pleiades recently hoping for a cute het love story but was left super bored. What were the threads like? Maybe watching it with anons would have made it better.
No.19793
>>19789This
>>19790. I'm currently watching it and it's pretty good. I personally expected a stupid but fun damedame anime much like leviathan, fantasista doll or ange vierge. It's a bit like those in that it requires that you accept some unnecessarily stupid things and just sit back and enjoy, but beyond that entry barrier it plays out quite differently.
I'm amazed at how it manages to marry the serious and silly aspects. I'm watching these cute girls flying through space in magical flying not-brooms that make car noises, and I genuinely care for the characters and am moved by their story arcs, I am honestly intrigued by the more enigmatic plot points, and, above all, the increasing distances at which things take place, together with the sense of scale that underlies some scenes, successfully inspire in me a feeling that I guess I should call awe.
I don't want to blow this so out of proportion that I'll cause potential viewers to be disappointed instead, but there is silliness, there is cuteness, there is space porn, there is hype, and there can be other things if you're lucky.
No.19794
>>19793Sadly it did lack some needed budget. And the thing that could have made the show a lot better, but I found anime really lacks, is the scale of size. It is one of the things that even stupid space movies usually have and makes you go "damn that view."
Here are a few graphs from the threads. Don't open them until you finish the anime:
https://a.pomf.cat/nyrzka.pnghttps://a.pomf.cat/neqqxm.pnghttps://a.pomf.cat/qtkkae.png No.19806
>>19794I hate being reminded of shows I watched but paid no attention to.
Seeing these images makes me feel like I missed on something for just sitting back and enjoying it. I really had no idea what was going on.
No.19901
>>19900Even PewDiePie prefers the manga.
No.20450
Thread will be locked, because it is getting heavily spammed by bots.
New thread here
>>20449